Magniwork Perpetual Motion Scam!

Perpetual Motion Impossible

***Update -7/27/09 - I've confirmed with my own eyes that Magniwork is a SCAM! One of the readers was kind enough to share the Magniwork plans with me and they are laughable. The whole "document" is 57 pages long and looks like something a kid in high school put together. The final "generator" is basically a magnet that is 2" high sitting on a turntable that is 4" high! They claim that its output is 24.5 Watts! That is 1/100th of what my house uses when the AC is on. That is nothing! Basically the plans tell you how to make a mini-electrical generator, but they dont even tell you how you are supposed to turn the thing to produce energy! The thing is about the size of your palm, so even if you did find a "free" way to rotate the shaft, it wouldnt put out enough power to light up a standard light bulb. It's completely ridiculous. Please don't even attpempt to build this thing, just look at the plans if you want a good laugh. Here is some text in regards to how the Magniwork is supposed to be powered:

This power source is not predicated on a continuous flow of energy but predicated on the consistency of the transmutation process of the magnetic molecular structures within the Earth's pressure flow.

What does that even mean? By reading the text it doesn't look like it was a native English speaker who wrote the thing. I bet the author has some money they need to wire to you from a Nigerian bank account.

Whatever you do, don't waste your money on this!

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***Update #2 - 7/30/09 - See the Magniwork plans online for free at this site: Magniwork stole the plans from here. Thanks to Ajax Chen for finding the link. While the site is not the exact version of the plans, it looks like the Magniwork authors just copy and pasted (without even bothering to change the images at all) from the site. From now on, don't even bother to ask for a copy of the plans in the comment section, just see the above link!

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***Update #3 - 8/5/09

Since I'm still getting comments from people saying that they will try to build the generator if they see the plans, I realize I just have to post some pictures of the plans. Once you see the ridiculousness of the "machine" there is no way anyone would try and build it. It's like if I told you I knew of a ground breaking way to cool your home for free, then gave you plans to build a standard refrigerator. Would you still try and build a standard fridge? Pictures coming tonight!

Well, here's the picture I promised. The picture below is taken from this site, which Magniwork stole the plans from.

The amazing Magniwork Generator!

I don't know if you can see, but the device will put out an amazing 24.5 Watts. Maybe enough to charge your phone! All you need is a few thousand of these and maybe you can power your house. But wait, what's going to spin them? Who knows.

Also, the only equipment they talk about is a Multimeter and a Soldering Iron. Ha! The only reason I'm not posting the plans is because I'm sure these scam artists would threaten me with a lawsuit and waste my time.

I am really bothered at how many sites there are when you Google "magniwork" claiming it is for real. This just means that these are also scam sites that get a commission for selling the fake plans. Don't trust these sites!

***Update #4 - 8/7/09

It's amazing (and infuriating) how many scam sites come up when you Google "magniwork". They have been able to weasel their way into a high google ranking. The one site with a high ranking that is not a scam is this great article on PESWiki regarding Magniwork. If you don't take my word for it, read their review.

***Update #5 - 8/18/09

Magniwork has been my most popular post by far. There were 210 people who found this post through Google just yesterday, so these scam artists have made their mark on the web. Based on a recent comment, I want to make one thing clear: I am not calling out this scam because it violates laws of physics (which it does). I am calling out this scam because I have seen where they stole the information and read through their laughable instructions that look like they were written by a 10 year old. Even if the generator actually worked, they completely fail to show how it can power anything bigger than a light bulb, much less your home! This was put together by someone who wanted to take advantage of people trying to save energy. I'm sorry if you've been suckered into this. If you really want to save energy at home, spend $15 and buy The Home Energy Diet: How to Save Money by Making Your House Energy-Smart (Mother Earth News Wiser Living Series). It is the most comprehensive analysis of conserving home energy, and it is not a scam! All I can say is follow Mapawatt Blog and hopefully you'll prevent yourself from falling into these scams in the future!

***Update #6 - 8/22/09

I've dedicated a whole post to Magniwork and other Renewable Energy scams . One thing it points out is that Magniwork and Ambigrid are the same thing. It also raises the question, Are Magniwork and Earth4Energy related?

***Update #7 - 9/13/09

Thanks to everyone's help, it looks like our exposure of Magniwork has got them squirming. Seems like they've changed their tune a little bit and are hawking Magniwork with a new name called Magnets4Energy. No, I am not going to link to them, but you can do a Google search for yourself to see how these scammers operate.

***Update #8 - 10/20/09

The guys at off-grid.net have done a great story on the scammers behind Magniwork and a great review of the Magniwork Scam and how it works.

***Update #9 - 01/24/10

I found this great history of perpetual motion machines. Guess what, none of them worked. Reminded me of Magniwork.

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Original Post

I recently added some Google Ads to the site (yes, I am a capitalist) and I ran across this add for a company called Magniwork showing up on my sidebar. They were advertising "free energy" so of course it caught my eye. On their site they say, "How would you like to create a generator which creates free electric energy?" They then show some diagram that is completely useless (and actually includes an diesel generator?) and finally go on to say:

A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it.

Perpetual motion! Woo Hoo! Sounds like a great deal huh? Unfortunately it violates that First Law of Thermodynamics. Physicists and Engineers don't call it the LAW of conservation of energy just to have a clever marketing name.

Why can you never have a perpetual motion machine? Because you will always have friction! Whether it is air friction or friction of a rotating shaft on a bearing, you will always have it! Friction causes things to slow down, so no matter how much energy you start with, friction will slowly eat away at that energy. And this is just a machine that moves forever, not even a machine that has to create electricity with its movement. If you have to create electricity, it requires much more work , so how are you going to overcome natural friction AND create electricity without any losses?

You can have machines that take advantage of wind, solar power, batteries, temperature gradients, etc., but these are not perpetual motion machines. They are just taking energy from one form and converting it to another. You can't create anything from nothing!

The website isn't even selling a machine, but just plans for a machine. Obviously that is a smart idea for an energy scam artist. They can always claim that you just hooked it up wrong. And they claim that the reason you haven't heard of this wonderful device yet is because corporations are suppressing the information. Let me promise you this: If a perpetual motion machine existed that created electricity, it would make a corporation the richest corporation in the world. That's a fact. Corporations would love to sell a machine that created free electricity!

They also have several customer testimonials on the site. As I covered in my article on the Power Factor scam device, never trust customer testimonials on a website. Do you know how easy it is to make one up. Here, let me show you:

John McGillicutty from Kalamazoo, Michigan says, "MapAWatt Blog is the greatest blog in the whole entire world. If you aren't reading this blog you are crazy. Mapawatt has saved me millions in energy bills. Millions I tell you!"

See, I just made that up, but I bet you thought it was real because there was a name and a city attached to the quote. Don't believe customer testimonials on websites that sound like a scam! The website states, "Hundreds of successful magniwork generators have been built around the world, which is a proof that this technology really works!". This means there are many fools that took the bait, not that it works (Thanks Randy for providing this last insight.)

If you are some sucker that got pulled in to trying to sell one of these devices or if you actually bought this, I'm sorry. If you are going to try to argue that it really does work, show me this device hooked up to an energy meter like the TED or any other energy meter. Then prove to me it isn't hooked up to any external power/battery sources. If you can prove that it works, congratulations, you just won the Nobel Prize......

Until then, I'm calling B.S.!

Click here to learn why perpetual motion free energy machines don't work. Make any comments regarding perpetual motion on the post in the link. You can make Magniwork scam comments below.

***Update - 11/03/09 - One of the Mapawatt team members sent me the Mythbuster's Free Energy segment. Guess what? They busted the Free Energy myth!

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Comments

Anonymous (not verified) Sat, 10/10/2009 - 09:55

Being an electrical engineer, I was always interested in generating renewable energy and was fasinated by this Free Energy device. Has anybody tried and made actually few watts out of this device. I mean whatever insignificant output it may be but if output is more than input, you have just broken laws of physics. Also, I have also come across Magnets 4 Energy sites, is it same or bit different then whatever you all have been talking about. I would appreciate if I too can have a look at (my broken dream) plan. My email is ykbhardwaj (AT) hotmail.com

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 12/13/2009 - 19:24

I feel that you guys are blocking me to go against the Magniwork scam. My idea is to publish free the Magniwork plans. That would be the end for this Macedonian scam

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 12/13/2009 - 10:22

If you guys think this is a scam, perhaps you should look at this video... <a href="http://www.flixya.com/video/1341961/Perpetual_Energy" rel="nofollow">http://www.flixya.com/video/1341961/Perpetual_Energy</a> If a guy can create a perpetual magnet motor from toy parts then surely there is a company somewhere what can make it work for a simple application like a domestic house generator. It's time for the truth to come out...

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 09:12

Chris, This is a sad blog and you should rethink what you are doing here. I don’t like the fact that people are selling rotor and engine plans on internet claiming that they have invented a free energy machine. If they did so, there are countries on the World where energy companies must buy energy from any client if they produce any at home. Germany is one of them. So if you have a free energy machine you would not need to rely on selling plans on the internet. You simply could sell energy to the grid and you would be very very well paid for it as like in Germany: any energy generated at home (with green technologies) has to be bought for 7 times more than you pay for energy companies. So taking this into account it is very probable that these guys are scammers. On the other hand what you are doing here is wrong on every level. You don’t provide a single scientific fact to prove them wrong. You are simply saying repeatedly that they are scammers because they are scammers. That can be done by anyone. I studied physics and you have to know that magnetism and many other classical fields of physics are still unclear on many ways. It may surprise you but there is no scientist on the World who could answer probably one of the simplest question: What is matter / mass? Magnetism is an other highly debated subject. It is caused by the spin of atoms (by textbook). But if you think a bit and try to think honestly you will be surprised on magnetism yourself as well. Think about this: Put two magnets next to each other. Have some distance between them. You know from experience that if different poles are next to each other and the distance is less than a certain amount the two magnets will attract each other and will stick together without any external force. What has happened? The magnetic fields attracted each other and did some Work (W) To do Work you need Energy. Where this energy came from? If magnetism is caused by the spin of atoms than we can say that the spin of atoms gave the energy to do the Work. Regarding energy conservation energy cannot come from nothing. If atoms and its spins provided the energy to do the work they should have less energy after they did the work. It does not seem to be the fact. As electrons don’t fall into atoms nucleus atom’s spin seems to be not effected by the work they do. So where the energy comes from? With this we are entering an area called Quantum Physics I don’t want to go into. Magnetism amazed me as well when I was a student and believe or not I did produce a very similar plan to extract it’s strange properties and I have presented it to one of my teachers. He explained to me why it won’t work but he did not say that It does not work because I’m a scammer. Now, back to these drawings of these generators or rotors. What it is trying to be is a positively back looped generator. The idea is not a stupidity; many great minds have experimented with these kinds of generators. The actual reason they don’t work is simple. When you generate electromagnetic field with electromagnets there is a delay in the field. It is called the phase delay. It is actually delayed one fourth of a phase (or 90 degree in you draw vectors). For this reason these generators will never work. It is actually not university but high school material in physics in the country I’m from. I guess it’s the same in your country as your educational system said to be superior. So Dear Chris, even you should be able to provide a fair reason why these generators would not work. If you find a way around the phase delay and the phase of the field will match the phase of the current you could have a positively back looped generator and in theory you could harness the strange properties of magnetism. Of course we still would not account for redundancy, heat emission, other radiations that waste energy, etc. To my view you are doing nothing more than doing business based on the scammers business and you don’t have any interest to publish a viable and scientifically “does make sense” comment as it would put an end to this discussion and thus it would mean no further comments. This would cause your website position declining in Google and you would end up with no income. Dear Chris, let me repeat you: I would be very surprised if you were brave enough to let my comment to be posted and you will not delete it. If yes thank you for doing so. You maybe really one level better than the scammers. Regards, Gabriel

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 09:26

Gabriel, Thanks for your long comment however I'm afraid you'll want to go back and re-study your physics. You say: <blockquote>On the other hand what you are doing here is wrong on every level. You don’t provide a single scientific fact to prove them wrong.</blockquote> You obviously didnt see one of the first things I wrote in the original post regarding Magniwork: <strong>"Unfortunately it violates that First Law of Thermodynamics"</strong> I would say the First Law of Thermodynamics would qualify as a "single scientific fact".

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:14

Well-well, Let me do then: The first law of thermodynamics says that energy is conserved in any process involving a thermodynamic system and its surroundings. Frequently it is convenient to focus on changes in the assumed internal energy (U) and to regard them as due to a combination of heat (Q) added to the system and work done by the system (W). Taking dU as an incremental (differential) change in internal energy, one writes dU = dQ - dW Non of these generators are a direct thermodynamic system. These generators violates Maxwell's laws not the First Law of Thermodynamics. In science everybody has the right to come up with any idea and claim that they have discovered something as far as it can be measured and repeated. It is also very important that anybody has the right to doubt anything as far as argumentation is based on measured and repeated experiences or laws created from them. There is a problem with Maxwell's Laws which is unsolved. There is a problem with gravity and mass. These days even the Universe seems to violate the Laws of Thermodynamics as far as I concerned: think of the always expanding universe and dark matter and dark energy. As far as they are unsolved I would be very careful criticizing people trying to find out things and experimenting. I kindly ask the owners of these generators the following: I'm sure they did good money in the last few years by selling these copies. If they are really holding the key for free energy why not simply build a few hundred of these generators from a few thousand dollars in Africa. One child dies every 30 seconds there from so easily curable things like malaria. If I had the blueprints of a free energy generator I would teach to build these generators for a few hundred people in villages in India and Ethiopia and would watch the world transforming in a few years. Well, If they don’t do it, I would not say they are scammers. I would say they are mean capitalists.

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:38

Gabriel, Ok, better argument. There are two issues here: Magnetic generators and Magniwork. Your argument may hold water in regards to Magnetic generators. But you are wasting your time regarding Magniwork. Have you seen the plans? If you have, you know they are a joke. They are not a joke because they violate any rules (which they do). They are a joke because they were written at a 4th grade level by someone who clearly just wanted to scam people. I have stated this many times in this comments section.

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 09:34

Well, then quote it and point out what is actually violated please.

Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 12/28/2009 - 12:07

Gabriel, From the wikipedia link that I included in the original post. "The first law of thermodynamics, an expression of the principle of conservation of energy, states that energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but cannot be created or destroyed." The Magniwork website states Magniwork is a perpetual motion device. Perpetual motion violates the first law of thermodynamics. Don't get mad at me, get mad at all the physicists who operate under that pesky law. I think this case is settled, so unless you are going to make a very good point, I probably wont post it and waste any more time....

Anonymous (not verified) Fri, 11/13/2009 - 11:05

The points of view from Harvey Katz, nov 11 - shouldn´t his comments be sufficient for any reasonable person? ("in all the history of mankind no one has ever produced... etc", and "...what are the chances of ... finding one on the internet?". What is the English term - "wishful thinking"?, that "overrides" normal persons´ common sense? Greetings from Scandinavia - keep up the good work!

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