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Perpetual Motion Impossible
***Update -7/27/09 – I’ve confirmed with my own eyes that Magniwork is a SCAM! One of the readers was kind enough to share the Magniwork plans with me and they are laughable. The whole “document” is 57 pages long and looks like something a kid in high school put together. The final “generator” is basically a magnet that is 2″ high sitting on a turntable that is 4″ high! They claim that its output is 24.5 Watts! That is 1/100th of what my house uses when the AC is on. That is nothing! Basically the plans tell you how to make a mini-electrical generator, but they dont even tell you how you are supposed to turn the thing to produce energy! The thing is about the size of your palm, so even if you did find a “free” way to rotate the shaft, it wouldnt put out enough power to light up a standard light bulb. It’s completely ridiculous. Please don’t even attpempt to build this thing, just look at the plans if you want a good laugh. Here is some text in regards to how the Magniwork is supposed to be powered:
This power source is not predicated on a continuous flow of energy but predicated on the consistency of the transmutation process of the magnetic molecular structures within the Earth’s pressure flow.
What does that even mean? By reading the text it doesn’t look like it was a native English speaker who wrote the thing. I bet the author has some money they need to wire to you from a Nigerian bank account.
Whatever you do, don’t waste your money on this!
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***Update #2 – 7/30/09 – See the Magniwork plans online for free at this site: Magniwork stole the plans from here. Thanks to Ajax Chen for finding the link. While the site is not the exact version of the plans, it looks like the Magniwork authors just copy and pasted (without even bothering to change the images at all) from the site. From now on, don’t even bother to ask for a copy of the plans in the comment section, just see the above link!
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***Update #3 – 8/5/09
Since I’m still getting comments from people saying that they will try to build the generator if they see the plans, I realize I just have to post some pictures of the plans. Once you see the ridiculousness of the “machine” there is no way anyone would try and build it. It’s like if I told you I knew of a ground breaking way to cool your home for free, then gave you plans to build a standard refrigerator. Would you still try and build a standard fridge? Pictures coming tonight!
Well, here’s the picture I promised. The picture below is taken from this site, which Magniwork stole the plans from.
The amazing Magniwork Generator!
I don’t know if you can see, but the device will put out an amazing 24.5 Watts. Maybe enough to charge your phone! All you need is a few thousand of these and maybe you can power your house. But wait, what’s going to spin them? Who knows.
Also, the only equipment they talk about is a Multimeter and a Soldering Iron. Ha! The only reason I’m not posting the plans is because I’m sure these scam artists would threaten me with a lawsuit and waste my time.
I am really bothered at how many sites there are when you Google “magniwork” claiming it is for real. This just means that these are also scam sites that get a commission for selling the fake plans. Don’t trust these sites!
***Update #4 – 8/7/09
It’s amazing (and infuriating) how many scam sites come up when you Google “magniwork”. They have been able to weasel their way into a high google ranking. The one site with a high ranking that is not a scam is this great article on PESWiki regarding Magniwork. If you don’t take my word for it, read their review.
***Update #5 – 8/18/09
Magniwork has been my most popular post by far. There were 210 people who found this post through Google just yesterday, so these scam artists have made their mark on the web. Based on a recent comment, I want to make one thing clear: I am not calling out this scam because it violates laws of physics (which it does). I am calling out this scam because I have seen where they stole the information and read through their laughable instructions that look like they were written by a 10 year old. Even if the generator actually worked, they completely fail to show how it can power anything bigger than a light bulb, much less your home! This was put together by someone who wanted to take advantage of people trying to save energy. I’m sorry if you’ve been suckered into this. If you really want to save energy at home, spend $15 and buy The Home Energy Diet: How to Save Money by Making Your House Energy-Smart (Mother Earth News Wiser Living Series). It is the most comprehensive analysis of conserving home energy, and it is not a scam! All I can say is follow Mapawatt Blog and hopefully you’ll prevent yourself from falling into these scams in the future!
***Update #6 – 8/22/09
I’ve dedicated a whole post to Magniwork and other Renewable Energy scams . One thing it points out is that Magniwork and Ambigrid are the same thing. It also raises the question, Are Magniwork and Earth4Energy related?
***Update #7 – 9/13/09
Thanks to everyone’s help, it looks like our exposure of Magniwork has got them squirming. Seems like they’ve changed their tune a little bit and are hawking Magniwork with a new name called Magnets4Energy. No, I am not going to link to them, but you can do a Google search for yourself to see how these scammers operate.
***Update #8 – 10/20/09
The guys at off-grid.net have done a great story on the scammers behind Magniwork and a great review of the Magniwork Scam and how it works.
***Update #9 – 01/24/10
I found this great history of perpetual motion machines. Guess what, none of them worked. Reminded me of Magniwork.
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Original Post
I recently added some Google Ads to the site (yes, I am a capitalist) and I ran across this add for a company called Magniwork showing up on my sidebar. They were advertising “free energy” so of course it caught my eye. On their site they say, “How would you like to create a generator which creates free electric energy?” They then show some diagram that is completely useless (and actually includes an diesel generator?) and finally go on to say:
A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it.
Perpetual motion! Woo Hoo! Sounds like a great deal huh? Unfortunately it violates that First Law of Thermodynamics. Physicists and Engineers don’t call it the LAW of conservation of energy just to have a clever marketing name.
Why can you never have a perpetual motion machine? Because you will always have friction! Whether it is air friction or friction of a rotating shaft on a bearing, you will always have it! Friction causes things to slow down, so no matter how much energy you start with, friction will slowly eat away at that energy. And this is just a machine that moves forever, not even a machine that has to create electricity with its movement. If you have to create electricity, it requires much more work , so how are you going to overcome natural friction AND create electricity without any losses?
You can have machines that take advantage of wind, solar power, batteries, temperature gradients, etc., but these are not perpetual motion machines. They are just taking energy from one form and converting it to another. You can’t create anything from nothing!
The website isn’t even selling a machine, but just plans for a machine. Obviously that is a smart idea for an energy scam artist. They can always claim that you just hooked it up wrong. And they claim that the reason you haven’t heard of this wonderful device yet is because corporations are suppressing the information. Let me promise you this: If a perpetual motion machine existed that created electricity, it would make a corporation the richest corporation in the world. That’s a fact. Corporations would love to sell a machine that created free electricity!
They also have several customer testimonials on the site. As I covered in my article on the Power Factor scam device, never trust customer testimonials on a website. Do you know how easy it is to make one up. Here, let me show you:
John McGillicutty from Kalamazoo, Michigan says, “MapAWatt Blog is the greatest blog in the whole entire world. If you aren’t reading this blog you are crazy. Mapawatt has saved me millions in energy bills. Millions I tell you!”
See, I just made that up, but I bet you thought it was real because there was a name and a city attached to the quote. Don’t believe customer testimonials on websites that sound like a scam! The website states, “Hundreds of successful magniwork generators have been built around the world, which is a proof that this technology really works!”. This means there are many fools that took the bait, not that it works (Thanks Randy for providing this last insight.)
If you are some sucker that got pulled in to trying to sell one of these devices or if you actually bought this, I’m sorry. If you are going to try to argue that it really does work, show me this device hooked up to an energy meter like the TED or any other energy meter. Then prove to me it isn’t hooked up to any external power/battery sources. If you can prove that it works, congratulations, you just won the Nobel Prize……
Until then, I’m calling B.S.!
Click here to learn why perpetual motion free energy machines don’t work. Make any comments regarding perpetual motion on the post in the link. You can make Magniwork scam comments below.
***Update – 11/03/09 – One of the Mapawatt team members sent me the Mythbuster’s Free Energy segment. Guess what? They busted the Free Energy myth!
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There are some special windings of steel wire around the magnets that people leave out and then it doesn’t work and they complain. Build it to spec and then let everyone know with youtube videos.
Nice try Jim. No matter how close you follow the spec, it wont work.
When built to exceed the specs the machine will produce even greater power output, I thought of plans for a similar device but unfortunately I did not have enough funding to fabricate it. My specs were for a slightly larger device, but with greater output, instead of using just long bar magnets, try smaller more square magnets, reversing the poles as you step up and around and do the same for the outer ring of magnets.
If I was the inventor and trusted my machined worked to produce electrity, i would put it on a production line and make BILLIONS, not sell it on PAPER !
Have you seen the motor working?
It’s been almost 2 years and I have yet to see even a sample of one of these proposed machines.
Yeah, I also, when first read about this perpetual energy through magnetic force thing was sorta believing it. But now when others demystify the myth start to believe that it is a scam. I mean look at their website, it itself looks scammy. Ray the diy home solar panels enthusiast, please visit to learn more about building solar.
Any one who paid attention in 4th grade science class,should remember when the teacher told you about perpetual motion,and why it won’t work.friction! they, are going on one of the laws of motion that,states “Any object placed in motion has a tendency to remain in motion” the key word is “tendency” other words, it wants to but it can’t. why? friction.the naturaL drag on every thing that moves. remember you had to list causes of friction, heat,wind,gravity,ect. my 8 year old son got excited too when he heard about it.was going to invent it, allways starts with a gyroscope and a super oil…….
Unfortunately there is not any friction between the devices working parts, and under my recent calculations the magnets will produce enough force to over come the “friction” of a well greased brand new bearing, after doing some more math you ought to find that the device will have the “tendency” to spin for months just by itself, I know fo a fact because the model that I built would refuse to stop spinning until someone started to mess with it.
Thanks Guys,
I have been waiting for some feedback on this and I already have it up on my website but it will be down within the hour.
I don’t like to promote rubbish, scams and stuff, so I wonder how much of the other stuff I promoted from these market websites is crap too. I will see if I can research more of these.
Hi. Could you send me plans about capagen generator. I would build this on farm. I take some plans from jaudin.fr webside but it doesn’t work. Can you help me?
While you can’t overcome the laws of physics with this device there would be a very low power way to drive a generator using electromagnets and permanent magnets by taking advantage of the repulsion of the “north vs. south” poles of magnets. Imagine a rotor with a several large electromagnets on it. Then you would have an outer ring with permanent magnets on it. Each of the electromagnets are wired through their own respective power relays or even solid state relays. You would then have a microprocessor (microamps to milliamps of current draw) with the outputs attached to driver transistors (maybe two stage transistor drivers) which in turn would power the relay. I don’t know how much current is necessary to turn on a power relay because I’ve been retired from engineering for a while and haven’t keep up with the last 15 years of technology. Along the outer ring you would have small sensors, either magnetic or other types. This is where timing, like in a car, comes into play. It would take some playing but based on the RPMs of the rotor and the sensor hits, it would be possible for the processor to automatically calculate when a permanent magnet will align slightly ahead of the electromagnet. With proper programming, the processor can predict that alignment and when the permanent magnet and the electromagnet crosses paths the processor would then turn on the relay (milliseconds)and create a reverse polarity current flow to repel the permanent magnet. Once the alignment and current is reached, the processor shuts off the relay(s) and allows the law of magnetic repulsion kick it and push the rotor so that the next sensor detects the position of the rotor and prepares to fire the next electromagnet (or more) at the same time. To increase the torque of the rotor, you would need to use as many sensors, permanent mags and electro mags as needed and maybe scale up the rotor assembly. Since the processor is so fast, the current draw through the relays is only for a few milliseconds just long enough to “pulse” the electromagnet to create the repulsion and then turn it off. A good low power processor will minimize that part of the power draw and the the “on” current of the relays would be minimized to a small fraction of a second. This is called “low duty cycle”. Overall, I think the power used to operate the device would cause it to drive a generator with a low duty cycle which translates to lower drive power. So it would create more electricity that it takes to operate it. Just my idea as I have designed processor circuits with 8 bit processors at 12 Mhz which could perform 100s of thousands of operations a second. That’s plenty fast to do this but only 256 outputs by way of a demultiplexor that would convert 8 bits into 256 combinations of outputs. It may take a 16 bit processor to do a better job, especially at higher speed. The key to all this would be the algorithm to dynamically calculate the distance from each sensor to the next electromagnet. Pulsing takes much less power than a constant on DC or AC current to drive the magnets. I really believe this could produce more is than is needed to drive the rotor. A power gain would be desirable. It would take months to develop the circuitry and the micro code algorithm and lots of engineer play time. I think it could be done in time.
Robert, I think this has been the dream of countless tinkerers through history. If it were possible, don’t you think some university would have done it by now?
Robert, it has been done, sort of. It’s called “cycloconverter”, check at ABB: they sell really big ones to power ships and industrial machinery. The “small sensors” actually are a combination of absolute and differential encoders along with current sensing loops in the windings.
Only, it is NOT a generator: it is a motor.
No matter how much effort you put in the electronic, you are still stuck with the Gauss theorem, which has not changed much in the past 15 (or 15 billion) years.
they have just go to youtube. it is possible to do it, maybe not through magniwork but it is people have done it. it should be available for sale soon in other countries.
Oh, and you believe everything you see on YouTube? Give me a break.
I dont say it works for Magniwork….but what about Tesla? Do you say Teslas car didnt work? Or teslas other inventions were scam????
No, Teslas inventions worked great. But when did he ever invent something to create free energy? I think you need to go back and review your history.
He wanted to harness resonant energy from the planet!!!! Couple a device to this frequency and it will move (Bit like the opposite of his experiment where he made tall buildings wobble about with a tiny moving weight)
Even if we were to at least improve the efficiency of current solar and other new techs it would be significant. If something can be invented it can also be improved and usually after some experience, the jump is huge. I’d be happy with a machine that can put out 125% of input power, 110%? Take that step first and then work on it and improve it. It’s cool to go after the holy grail but I think folks would be much more productive and inspired by starting with an improvement then improve on that.
Arji, good ideas, but no machine ever invented can even put out 100% of input power.
Yeah Chris,
All it will take is one breakthrough to get past the 100% and into 110% +. From then the research data will grow like crazy and it wouldn’t be long before we actually did have free energy….and it may not be what we think it should be……and it may be simpler than we think. The first breakthrough may take research in a completely different direction.
Anyone know anything about the Searl effect? It’s quite interesting and complex and there is research happening currently which makes it interesting to me. As long as we grab a hold of a possibility, we more often that not, do figure it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searl
http://www.searlsolution.com/
Reading the whole thread and all the comments of the past years, I find that there is a misconception that keeps surfacing every few comments. This one from Arji is just the most recent instance.
It’s not that we don’t know how to do it.
As for conservation of energy, it is not a hole in our knowledge that is waiting to be filled.
The fact is we are positive it can not be done. We know it does not work. Period.
Analogies like “yes, people once upon a time believed human flight was impossible, or radio was impossible or technology xxx was impossible, and see now” are actually misleading.
First of all, no competent scientist ever said something of the like. And I stress the world “scientist”, as if in “after the discovery and full acceptance of the scientific method”.
Besides, there has never been a fundamental law of physic to be overturned to make a man fly.
This is not the case with “overunity” (aka: perpetual motion).
Telsa did want to use power from the earth to give it to everyone free, but I think the issue with that would have been how much does the earth have/generate and if it was used what would be the effects on the earth itself? Does the earth recharge via the sun somehow? Lots to look into around this, but still convinced that more electricity is the answer to humanities problems. Making better use of less would be great, spread the wealth of energy to everyone. Consumption must be cut in order to make things work, not find another source that could potentially have issues in the future. When whale oil was the bees knees, no one thought about the issue of over harvesting. Petroleum came along, but now there are issues with that. So, a new source might seem better, but long term what happens? Less is more.
I think bigfoots are using perpetual motion machine everyday and I’m sure there is a youtube video proving it. We are just looking in the wrong place.
So here is the paradox that i cant really gasp:
You tell yourself to be someone who understands the situation and is skilled and/or educated enough to debunk the motor in detail, yet you fail to gasp that everything you wrote is about as much of a fabrication magniwork has done.
No offense bro, but i have about had it with mentally impaired haters who always go along the line of “I wont post the evidence because , but you can trust me cause im telling the truth”.
Either do it or dont do it, but this “trust me on it” type of half way into things bullshit just makes one rage. So post it or get the fuck out.
The reason I don’t post the Magniwork plans is that we are obviously dealing with unscrupulous individuals, and I’m sure they’d jump at a chance at a lawsuit of some sort (even though they would never have a case). “mentally impaired haters”? Really?
Is the EBM (Energy by motion) by Prof. Leslie Szabo from Budapest,Hungary a scam or the real Mc Coy. Would like to know why it´s not for sale yet
I’m guessing it’s not for sale because it’s a scam, and they havent figured out how to scam people yet. Peswiki is a great resource for “perpetual motion” claims: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Energy_By_Motion_%28EBM%29
ammm tons a question it is not possible with a few magnets can rotate a motor or if the weather would turn but would stop?
if you could use a car genedador to charge a car battery using an inverter and we may have light or serious?
we check some video on the net and are very simple, however much potential and I leave the kinks Aque I can desir them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSCYHqPzJPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Jko_yJpoQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9sV6_D_NY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVArz-RSXBE&feature=related
one more video as I explain the video ??
I had little problem with the consistency of the transmuting the earths pressure flow until the magnetic process was disrupted by the carbunkle on my whatoflexor throwing the systolic zimbasteries into disarry. I got a new one from Harbor Freight and it works fine now. Thanks for the informative article.
Lawyers did not stop Millions of people from free movies online, so why are you so worried about posting the other half of the plans on thins dead end site that only a handful of people know about, and if it turns out that you’re right, I’m pretty sure that you would have a strong defense in the area of FALSE ADVERTISEMENT FOR MEANS OF PROFIT, especially if this person has made any kind of profit, because all it takes is one person who doesn’t know how to follow instructions to become upset with their failures and call a wonderful invention a scam just because the were too lazy to get off of their asses and try again, and just for the cause, I followed the FULL INSTRUCTIONS and found that it did produce enough force to overcome the friction, and then produce a little power to spare, and I do agree with the fact that it produces a wimpy amount of power (just a little more than it takes to charge a blackberry) but I’m sure that with enough time and thought someone will come up with an improved design. P.S. next time you start a website based on YOUR opinion, make sure you get your facts straight before you waste the amount of space it takes for people who ACTUALLY KNOW what their talking about, which leads me to this question- You’ve posted so many things to disprove people who actually went to school for this, and some actually make a living off of it, so is it possible for you to post some kind of degree that might prove that you have the slightest idea of what you’re talking about, and I guarantee that that no one will sue you for that. For all others, head this warning, throughout history those who have listened to the downtrodden and fainthearted have become downtrodden and fainthearted themselves.
Melvin, until you post a YouTube video of yourself introducing the device you have made and shown it working, I am advising nobody to listen to your claims.
Let me get this straight. A machine has been invented that breaks the first law of thermodynamics, can produce a never ending power supply and is relatively cheap to make…is that right? NO!!!!! Its not!!!! I can tell you absolutely that the machine is not possible within the constraints of the planet earth due to the drag of the air on the moving parts and that thing called GRAVITY. The magnets will pull and push with equal value based on the field interaction but they cannot continue forever due to the whole air/gravity thing. I know somebody will say something about proving this and making a video and posting it but I am somewhat annoyed that I wrote this at all. I can guarantee that as soon as this technology is possible it means that we have found a way to isolate, bend or reflect gravity. You will see about a million new inventions as soon as that happens. I’m not going to say what I do or that I know anything about anything because somebody would say I’m a liar or tell me to prove it. What I do know is “Individuals that dont have the money to blow are getting ripped off by these blood suckers and its not right.” When an elderly friend of mine asks me to build it for her because she knows what I do and I find that she bought the plans is absolutely intolerable. Stop with this nonsense…IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!!!
Those of you that claim it doesn’t work without actually trying it need to take a step back. I’ve been there, done it and I now power my swimming pool and hot tub with one and my 5 ton AC unit with another. The pool and hot tub run through a collector tube, being heated by the sun. I swim year round. My home AC unit runs on another and I pay zero dollars for it.
Before you condemn, spend the money so you aren’t just talking out your butt without any real knowledge.
Nice try Kevin! Please show a video of these working!
Edison’s Current is free off the net. Which has been copied by Magniwork.
Kevin do you have picture of the coil and 8mm copper rod assembly that’s in between the circuit board and battery bank? The plans I looked at are little short on detail.
Show us. Post this a video of this unit on Youtube.
Folks, if it’s too good to be true..then it is NOT TRUE! I agree with the others that say the same things.
Lets look at this conflict a different way for a moment: A “magnetic generator” is not a perpetual motion device. A water wheel produces “free” energy via the forces of gravity. As water “falls” down its bed (river, creek, stream, etc.) towards its ultimate location it turns a wheel. This wheel can then be used to produce electricity. Las Vegas, Nevada is a prime example of the efficient and successful use of this motion. But we do not call the Hoover Damn a perpetual motion device. If a successful magnetic generator were to be produced it would likewise not be a perpetual motion device in that it would utilize natural forces of magnetism or gravity to convert existing energy into usable electricity.
Magnets do have enough energy to defy the Laws of Gravity. Ergo, there is energy there. There could very well be a way to draw upon this energy in some usable form. I do not want to discourage anyone from tinkering with the idea.
A Japanese company claims to have produced a motorcycle that runs on magnets. And guess what, they want to sell “it”, not the “technology”. Therefore, I can only logically conclude that people would only sell the idea when the product dosen’t work. After all, if they were benevolent inventors who want to save the Earth why even sell the plans? Why not just post them on the internet for all to see, download, and print for as “free” as the energy they claim their device can produce?
However, lets be realistic for a second. If any person were to produce such a device, he or she would not sell you the blueprints over the interent for the low, low price of “$49.95″ (…or for whatever price the market allows this week). No, the blueprints would be copyrighted and the device patented. The technology would be very much legally protected by the originators. The device would then go into production and the demand for said device would far exceed production capabilities for years to come. The inventor responsible for single-handedly liberating us from fossil fuels would earn a Nobel Prize, move the the head of the line, and get bunches of little gold-stars by his name.
That being said, if sombody can invent this device before I do; I will buy it right away to power my home. I’m not a rich guy but I will pay you $20,000.00 cash if you come and install it and it works. Thats about what an average car would cost. It will then need to come with a minimum of a 5 year warranty. And, there should be a tech support line and a parts sales warehouse in the event I have trouble with it. So stop bull-corning and get busy.
Hi,
I have just seen a video on youtube and that seems pretty real to me. The title is “Permanent Magnetic Motor from Argentina. A self running, free energy generator!”. It’s actually spoken in Spanish, so I don’t quite understand the man who explains the machine. I would like to know your opinion on whether this is real or also just a scam. I have put the youtube link below. Thank you very much for you reply.
Regards,
Ruben
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBB8puMtwJM&feature=related
The existence of scams is unquestionable, just as the laws of physics are also unquestionable, like the one about nothing can travel faster than the speed of light – until recently that is. Then you have to wonder if there really is an upper speed limit.
I don’t see any reason why other established laws of physics such as perpetual motion or not getting more energy out than you put in can’t be proved wrong, after all these are laws observed and established by humans almost exclusively in the limited environment of Earth.
The Lutec style of electric of amplifier, (www.lutec.com.au) may work, but until it gets into commercial production and use(if ever), scepticism will win. I wonder how many noses would be (perhaps will be) bent if it happens and what reaction and level of response would come from academics or the more powerful commercial world.
Personally, if I had any kind of ‘free’ power engine or even a vastly improved efficiency engine, I certainly wouldn’t try to market it – too much danger from persons or organisations set to suffer commercial loss or academic standing. I’d definitely see if I could sell the patent though.
If you someone had a magic energy generator I’d tell you what to do. Find the richest person you could trust, go to a private equity firm with your device, and become a gazillionaire.
Johnny,
You and many others here remind me of the Catholic church and their persecution of Galileo. They absolutely believed the universe rotated around the earth and were willing to imprison or kill anyone else who thought differently. That is the inherent problem with belief. Scientists have very little creativity because of their beliefs. I call it scientific dogma. You and so many others are so entrenched in your beliefs that you can’t imagine and therefore create anything beyond what is known. It has been shown through the centuries that science has been disproved over and over again especially with the advent of quantum physics. Just because you believe there is nothing beyond Newtonian physics, it doesn’t mean there isn’t something that we are missing and don’t understand. You are incorrect about nothing being able to travel faster than light. Take a little time and educate yourself on some of the research being done. It is now believed that gravity waves can travel faster than light just as it was found that two sub atomic particles can be in the same place at the same time. We have also discovered that an experiment is changed simply by the act of observation. There is also a new science emerging called hyperdimensional physics. Also, we have been studying and are successfully building models that demonstrate anti-gravity technology which is something closed minded scientists have always rejected. That research has been going on for over 80 years. Do some research on the Nazi Bell and how it is believed it operates.
My point is that you nor anyone else do not know anything definitively. The universe is, and has always been, full of scientific surprises. If you really want to see a free energy machine, you have to open your mind to the possibilities. Quantum physics IS the science of possibility. Nothing has even been developed or discovered without one person stepping outside the Newtonian box and using the power of creativity to find a way to do it. This is a big problem in scientists. If you are young enough, it is a possibility you will see developments in systems able to harness dark energy to provide unlimited energy. There are and were a lot of past and present researchers looking at this right now. The vacuum of space is full of energy that we don’t recognize. We only just realized that the total mass of the universe doesn’t “add-up” and to account for that, science has developed the concept of dark matter. Those guys have realized there are things they don’t know about but are certain they exist. With dark matter most certainly comes dark energy. We know so little about it right now but as we open our scientific minds, we are certain to find what it really is and how we can harness it. You probably aren’t aware of an emerging science called torsion physics or even aware that there is a profound relationship between all planetary bodies and a tetrahedron superimposed within a planetary sphere. Take a look at this page and explore this website. The math is there. It’s up to you to understand it. http://theresonanceproject.org/research/scientific Explore this site and you will find the relationship between sacred geometry and the planetary systems and universe. It’s quite astounding.
“The more I learn. The less I know”
My blog covers many areas of lies told by those who would steal everything including your soul, let alone the kitchen sink. The best public source for energy knowledge is http://www.cheniere.com by Col Tom Beardon. Magnetics for energy is only part of the puzzle. Another expert is David Sereda. I was in the energy industry for 14 years and my studies went well beyond traditional generation methodologies, but I needed to use my skills developed as an intelligence operative to investigate the truth you will never find in engineering, except in classified & highly compartmentalized training. The best comment in this blog is posted by the engineer! Notice he didn’t get this specialized training while in his carreer. Like every other engineer he was never taught the full picture of the energy equation Beardon explains. N Tesla,T Beardon, D Sereda, also Wilhelm Riche, Raymond Rife and many others have learned to understand and apply correct science kept from the public. I’m an energy expert, but only in specific areas of the traditional industry, so it isn’t all that valuable. What is valuable is the heart that strives for truth. Hence, http://www.authorthat.wordpress.com The Blogathon Philabuster.
They just posted a video on you tube of the machine supposedly working, but it’s in a different language. That’s when I started looking it up and found this site.
They can do a lot of amazing things with video these days!
I saw the video, and has almost taken……BUT then I thought…..they could have easily hooked it up to it’s own power supply lol.
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Paying for these “instruction” is useless. The principle of this generator is real but you can find more than enough instruction on how to built one freely on the web. The one in the book may only produce little power but once you get the idea you can make a bigger one. The principle is awesome, just don’t pay for this book.
The one in the book produces zero power because it doesn’t work.
Another issue important to understanding the energy maze is Agenda 21. While everyone wants to be a good steward of the land because we are responsible for it,the idea of cap and trade and using co2 as the culprit is also a scam. In my opinion the Green movement intended for proper common sense of land and resource management has been co-opted by evil intent.
Feel free to have a look at my new blog on the subject, from people like Lord Christopher Monkton. See; http://www.authorthat.wordpress.com The Blogathon Philabuster.
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Very grateful for the discovery. I bet there are lots of refunds for the Magniwork. As one the comment has stated that if it works, they would have come out a kit and sell like hot cakes.
Wow Tesla, your comment is very interesting considering you are trying to sell a free energy device plans called Tesla something-or-other. Nice try. (Mapawatt Note: I removed the link to his/her site)
Concerning: authorthat
October 15th, 2011 at 8:36 am · Reply
“The best public source for energy knowledge is http://www.cheniere.com by Col Tom Beardon.”
Chris, would you care to comment on authorthat’s citation? Also, My brother-in-law is a classically trained electrical engineer with Lockheed-Martin (SKUNKWORKS). As an antenna expert, he and his team design some of the most sophisticated antenna systems in the world for America’s top fighter aircraft. As in the case of many others (who isn’t looking for cheap energy), this subject and others related to it, has recurred often with us over the years. He definately, and wholehearted agrees with the academic dismissal of the “perpetual motion” notion as being impossible, and utterly “nonsense”. Nonetheless, he still expressed an interest in this article I sent him from Science Daily dated July 7th 2011: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110707131545.htm
Which I would like very much to get your opinion on. Thanks
“Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.” Nikola Tesla
Wow people are gullible. As being both a physicist AND a mechanical engineer, let me say (or type) this loud and clear: perpetual motion machines can NOT exist! Anyone who claims that I am “nay-saying” the fact that we have yet to discover how to make one, is simply being ignorant and is uneducated in the field. Sure, we have made discoveries over the years that disproved some of our beliefs, but all of those breakthroughs followed the basic laws of physics.
There is ONE principle that our world relies on more than any other: ENERGY IS CONSERVED…it is NEITHER CREATED NO DESTROYED. Energy simply changes form. Example: wood has what is known as chemical potential energy. You burn the wood. The energy changes from chemical potential energy INTO heat energy. This boils a reservoir of water, which makes steam, and turns a generator and produces electrical energy. The amount of energy that the generator produces (in a measurement called JOULES) is a lower amount of joules than that of the original chemical potential energy stored in the wood before burning.
What I’m really just trying to say here is this: the energy you put INTO something changes form, and EVERY TIME YOU CHANGE ENERGY forms, SOME is lost to the surroundings, either by heat or sound. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get even 100% of input energy as output energy, LET ALONE more than that. This is they way our world works and that is fact, not suspicion.
Thank you also Chris for debunking Magniwork. They are full of crap. Anyone who buys into this idea of a magnetic generator that runs on its own free energy is being misled (not I did NOT say stupid…just uninformed or uneducated on the matter)
Thanks Sean. That’s why I finally broke down and wrote the post, “Why perpetual motion free energy devices don’t work“
I must say that I am shocked how you are all stuck in a groove here (experts and all).
I am not supporting magniwork as I have not had a detailed look at their offering. The main reason for this is time/energy as we are focusing on our own “free energy” device that is based on sound principles and proven experimentation.
I do not believe that perpetual motion (old 19th. century terminology) is possible in a single domain, however I would never be clever enough to say that anything is impossible especially when viewed from the quantum level.
I suggest that those of you with an open mind look at the following references, the first 2 “opened my eyes” around 10 years ago when I began to take my “perpetual motion” sunglasses off and research the realm of “Free Energy”.(I am a qualified engineer with 40 years experience so I do know a little bit)
a)See the work and research of Tom Bearden at http://www.cheniere.org, some of its a bit heavy to read but there is plenty that is easy. Well worth the study..
b)See the fantastic “Free Energy” replications and work of research scientist JL Naudin at http://www.jnaudin.free.fr
c) In addition to the above I refer you to the amazing 2400 page report on “Free Energy” compiled by Patrick J Kelly. Go to http://www.free-energy-info.com
Remember that “Free Energy” devices have long been in suppressed because of the disruptive technology effect. Even the printing press was disruptive technology and now we need to look at the evolution of 3D printers as well.
So you really don’t need to pay anything for information on “Free Energy”
In all fairness maybe Magnawork have something that is either badly engineered or presented. Maybe there are some possibilities here when not viewed as “perpetual motion” machine??
Be pro-active..study/research/experiment.
Q
One of the “articles” about this technology states, “We have even received an e-mail from a customer from Cabot, Arkansas, who has started a local business, making and selling our generators.”
If anyone can track down this supposed customer I will see if there is any evidence one way or the other about this product. I live about 20 minutes from Cabot Arkansas, I know the area (Mean Pig… the best BBQ in Ar.)
I am not aware of anyone advertising these devices in Cabot, but if someone is I am willing to check it out and report back on what I find.
Thanks Drew. They are liars and they are lying. There is no customer in Cabot, AR. Thanks for the comment though.
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! Just OPEN YOUR MIND.
If we learn to work together anything imagined will become reality.
Keep dividing ourselves and the human race will be forever stuck in the
dark ages.
Stop arguing, figting, belittlng, and critisizing and just do it!
Remember, sometimes you need to forget everything you have learned
and every belief you have to move forward.
Or, you could spend your time working on something useful, like volunteering, gardening, or working on real things you can do for energy conservation.
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see my comments @ CLaNZeR / PESWiki = Mike Peine The Vgate WORKS ! via PIEZOELECTRICS, etc… & a BLOCK & TACKLE ! WE have NOT ! needed fuel since 1969.It cost about $20 bucks to build the TOY @ CLaNZeR use ceramic magnets to prove to your self that FREE ENERGY is possible .You can also convert a 4 banger from fuel to electric by fixing weight 100lbs on each piston then using a 9:1 block & tackle to lift the weights by using voice coils , linear motors,via perpetual motion , etc…or a small fuel engine if you have to ! ? STOP POVERTY and the GASOLOONS from enslaving your children, they have already stolen your life.
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I am completely uneducated in these things but I know that the same poles of two magnets are pushing away one another. This phenomena can be used to produce perpetual motion.
Here is how.
1. You fix a wheel an the horizontal axis
2. put all around the wheel super-strong magnets.
3. all the magnets should have the north pol upward (or the south pol upward)
4. take an external magnet (that is not on the wheel) and use its north pole to bring close to the north pole magnets placed on the wheel
5. the 2 north poles (or the 2 south poles) will generate a pushing force that will result in perpetual motion of the wheel.
If you will use super-powerful big neodymium magnets with 2, 3 very light wheels when the axis will be connected to the electricity generators axis that can produce nice electricity for you.
this system can be built in and used in electrical cars to recharge the accumulators.
Many other things can be done as well. It is free energy from the pushing force of the 2 north or 2 south poles of the magnets.
There is was an idea of making two very powerful ring magnets.
1. one that has north pole outside and is places in an axis for rotation
2. another ring magnet that should be bigger with a north pole inside
3. the first magnet meant to rotate have to be placed within the second ring magnet
again the pushing force is used to produce motion of the middle wheel etc.
Sorry, it won’t work:
http://mapawatt.com/2011/11/24/why-perpetual-motion-free-energy-machines-dont-work/