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Renewable Energy Scams

energy scam alertMy post on the Magniwork free energy scam was so popular that there must be a strong need out there for someone to uncover all of these free energy scams on the web.  With energy prices continuing to rise, it is an unfortunate fact that scams promising "Never pay for energy again!" or "lower your bills 50%" are going to always be around.  I covered one such scam back in April regarding power factor correction.  Check out the great job that my friend at Open4Energy has done with the Energy Saving Scams post.

Let me re-iterate this fact:  The only way to lower your energy consumption is active conservation.  There is no magic pill.  Monitor, insulate, turn things off, use things less, etc.  If you want renewable energy, you can have a professional install a solar system or wind generator, but it will probably be expensive.  You will not save money building your own!  You may end up with solar panels, but will they really produce a meaningful amount of energy?  Do you want to put them on the roof that your family lives under?

If you see a product advertising itself as free energy machine, check out our post on "Why perpetual motion free energy devices don't work."

***Update 11/11/09 - So I decided to go on ClickBank and see if they had any "energy" guides that I could recommend that weren't scams.  Guess what?  Their top 7 "energy" related guides looked like scams to me.  Here's a screen-shot of the first 7 energy scam articles:

clickbank_energy_scamsSo what is each item above:

  1. Magniwork
  2. Earth4Energy
  3. Power4Home
  4. GreenDIYenergy
  5. Home Made Energy
  6. Magnets4Energy
  7. Free Power Blueprint (another perpetual motion scam)

Of all I've seen, the GreenDIYenergy is the least scammish, but still a little misleading.  But hey, if you don't want to take my word, go ahead an buy one of these plans.  I wont say I told you so (yes I will).  Basically, people scammers upload their "guides" to ClickBank, then other people can sell those guides and earn a commission.

***Update 09/02/09 - Martin was kind enough to try and post a comment on my Power Factor Correction Scam post, but when I did a little research I discovered Martin is involved in a new scam I have not heard about called magnets4energy.  Guess what!  Looks like it is the same people behind Magniwork and Ambigrid.  My post on Magniwork has been so popular (now the number one hit on Google) that they are trying to get ahead of the game and come up with new names. Don't fall for it!  If you want a good chuckle, you can find Martin's site at freeenergy2010.blogspot.com (WARNING: Scam Site!), but I am not directly linking to it.  Here is his comment, just so you get a feeling for how these scammers and frauds are trying to operate:

Interesting post, i found very cool clips on you tube of free magnetic energy generators and was absolutely fascinated. These are worth having a look at. Marty.

*Original post below

Ambigrid

I found Ambigrid on one of the scam websites promoting Magniwork and was amazed at how similar the Ambigrid and Magniwork websites looked.  After some help from www.selfseo.com I discovered that (ta da!) Magniwork and Ambigrid are registered to the same IP Address!

Brothers in Crime

Brothers in Crime

Guess the con-artists realized that people were catching on to the Magniwork name.  Now I dont know what material they try to present in the Ambigrid plans, but since it is the same group of people promoting the plans, they get labeled scam by association.

earth4energyEarth4Energy:  While I'm not officially labeling this as a scam, it's pretty darn close.  I also did an IP address search and found that Earth4Energy is also registered in Germany, but it has a different IP address than the ones above.  Could they be related?

I have been over to a friend's house and seen the plans with my own eyes.  While there is more useful information than Magniwork, it simplifies most things a great deal.  I covered these guys in a recent post titled: Earth4Energy - too good to be true? The guys over at NLCPR.com have a pretty thorough analysis on what they are calling the Earth4Energy scam.  I did find it interesting that some of the diagrams in Earth4Energy were the same diagrams in Magniwork.  Could they be developed by the same people?

Basically, any site that offers to sell you plans to build an energy system (solar, wind, magnets, etc.) for cheaper than what you would pay a professional is probably a  SCAM!  Now, if they offer to teach you how to build a generator as a hobby project, that is something totally different.  Also, if the site claims that the "energy companies" have been hiding the plans because of a big conspiracy, guess what...SCAM.

Electricity is not stuff to play around with.  Unless you are  a professional, don't think you can buy some magic plans to save energy.  If it were for real, some reputable company would be doing it already.  If you have doubts, shoot me an email and run it by me.  I have access to electrical engineers and reputable people in the blogosphere.

Look at it this way: All these sites claiming to "help" you are selling something.  This blog isn't.  We do eventually want to make money (off ads).  We are giving advice to attract readers so eventually we can make money off ads.  But in order to do that we need to give good advice and be trusted.  If Mapawatt violates that trust then nobody would read us.

Below are the websites I've found that recommend Magniwork (which is a 100% scam) or products like it.  If you represent one of these websites or you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.  I'd love to have a healthy debate.

SCAM Sites

Anything that promotes Magniwork or Ambigrid is getting a Scam site label.  If I were you, steer clear of these sites and all products they recommend.

Hojo Motor (this is now one of our most popular posts)

makepowerathome.com/

ambigrid.com/

ecopoweredhome.com/

magniwork.com/

diysolarhomes.com/

easyoffgrid.blogspot.com

freeenergy2010.blogspot.com - added on 9/2/09

magnets4energy.com - added on 9/2/09

Our society constantly looks for the easy way out, but when it comes to energy, there is no magic device here.  It all comes down to implementing proven technologies that are discussed on Mapawatt Blog and other reputable sites.  Don't fall for any of these scams!

***Update - 9/17/09 - So I was doing a little research, and I found this mock scam site:

http://diysolar.com

The web address looks like one of the scam ones, but it's not.  It's worth checking out. The site actually makes fun of all the scam offers out there offering to teach you how to build your own solar panels. The best tip on diysolar.com:

Secret # 5. I know that I mentioned tax credits and rebates on my website but I never said in my video and guide book that your home made panels or wind generator would qualify for them. You see since your home made solar panels and wind generator aren't U.L. approved and would violate the NEC code (National Electric Code) if you installed them on an occupied dwelling, you can't get a permit to install them on your home or business. So if you can't get a permit then you can't apply for any tax credits or rebates.

***Update - 10/30/09 -- One of the Mapawatt team members sent a link for Power 4 Home.  I won't say this is a 100% scam, but I will say they provide some misleading information.  It looks like it is the exact same people behind a company mentioned above and something I've written about in the past, Earth 4 Energy (they aren't that original when coming up with different names).

One thing they say on their site is: "if you generate more energy than you use, the electricity company will pay you!". Which isn't true! Usually, the utility will just reduce your bill by the amount of energy you produce, but if you zero out they will not pay you any more! It is information like this that makes me add them to this list.

Another annoying thing about these sites, is they have an annoying pop-up like the one below when you try to leave their "scammish" site:

Power4home_earth4Energy_sales_popup_scamIt seems like every single one of the sites utilizes this tool.  I wonder if they are all working together?

***update 11/11/09 - I decided to actually see how this computer generated response works.  Enjoy the conversation (it is just a coincidence that the computer sales person below has the same name as me)!

energy scam dialogue with a computer

energy scam dialogue with a computer

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Les and Jane, Please provide links to Mother Earth News online. We are very interested in saving time (money)by not reinventing something. Anybody published by M.E.N.has a great personal reference for instant credibility in my book. Thanks, Jeff and Debbie
Jeff and Debbie, Here is the link that Les and Jane sent me. They've done a great job getting off the grid and inspiring others to do the same! http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Homes/2004-02-01/Our-Handmade-Home.aspx
Two things, First, when I read this post and scan over to the right hand side I see a google adsense ad for guess what, Magniwork?? and you are making money every time someone clicks that ad... We understand very clearly about all of the free energy scams, for the past 15 years our family has been living off the grid and have not paid a single power bill in that time. It did take some time and effort to set up though, nothing like e4e or magniwork promise. But there is validity in the concept, it is in their execution of the principles that has a lot to be desired. ie. scam. We have written articles for Mother Earth News (I can send you the link to the online version) so that you know we are for real. And we would love to chat about your blog, you are doing some great work here, but we would like to offer some suggestions to better inform your readers. We would even be interested in posting an article or two if you like. Looking forward to talking with you, All the best, Les and Jane
If someone has bought the plans and been ripped off, can they put them up on the web for free, we can then all have a good read and laugh. and the scammers dont get rich.
Les and Jane, thanks for the comment! I look forward to hearing more from you. Unfortunately I can't prevent the google ads from displaying Magniwork. I've tried but they still get through. Feel free to click on them as it costs the scam artists money and gives me a few pennies!
The Magniwork magnetic generator they describe claims to generate power by the use of permanent magnets only -- but like all perpetual motion machines, describes the impossible. The booklet starts out well enough, describing the looming energy shortage and listing ways to reduce energy consumption. There are no obvious problems here. It also contains typical conspiracy themes, “All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.” and "In this book you will learn how to construct another alternative source of energy, which has not reached the mainstream media yet. But with time this energy will be widely accepted and used. This is geared towards "suspension of disbelief". The lunacy doesn't start until they lay out an elaborate text description of their "generator". For those of you with some electrical background, consider the following nonsense statements: * The magnetic generator at first must be charged up by driving the main shaft at 2100 RPM for 42 seconds. * This motor, which is driven totally by permanent magnet power, in no way, can be compared with perpetual notion in that the principle is not the same. (They use the term "perpetual notion" for "perpetual motion"). * This power source is not predicated on a continuous flow of energy but predicated on the consistency of the tansmutation process of the magnetic molecular structures within the Earth's pressure flow. Adding specific fake details is a common technique to make things appear legitimate. The text is full of small details that are often true, leading you to agree with the statements and distracting from the fact that is no more valid than a design "Home brew warp-coils for interstellar travel" or a Klingon cloaking device. Any time you see a design like this, there are a few things you can expect. First, it will not spin by itself -- which is probably why Magniwork states it needs to be "charged" by spinning it up to speed. Secondly, any permanent magnet will produce a magnetic field that will induce current in the coils -- so once it is rotating, some power is available from the coils. However, the power has to come from somewhere (e.g. wind turbine or some other mechanical means of rotating the shaft). "Earth's pressure flow" is a meaningless concept and bogus source of energy. Even if you didn't draw the power off the generator, frictional forces will slow it down and it will stop in a minute or less depending on the quality of the bearings. This scam is closely related to Earth4Energy and likely created by the same scammers. Many of the illustrations have striking similarities -- e.g. the same stock images. So, it all looks like an elaborate scam network ... http://www.nlcpr.com/Deceptions8.php
Thank you for posting this blog. I am interested in self-sufficiency, and the Ambigrid looked too good to be true. A little more research into the product landed me here on your blog, and my suspicions of a scam were confirmed. Here's another site that you don't have listed that advertises some of the scams you've blown the whistle on: http://easyoffgrid.blogspot.com Jason
Hmmm, if I must invest to get off the grid why not try <a href="http://solarlpower.com/" rel="nofollow">building solar panels</a> in my home. Not only it helps the environment, it also helps me financially and up keep is relatively low. <strong>(Admin note: I'm allowing this comment to go through, but I'll warn readers that this guy's site is basically a front to buy Earth4Energy plans. It's main purpose seems not to inform, but to get people to buy the plans.)</strong>

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